From the department of cultural cringe:
Around 50 people have bared their bottoms in protest against APEC and the visiting US President George W Bush.
A group calling themselves 'Bums for Bush' exposed themselves in Sydney's Hyde Park during a protest rally this afternoon.
Organiser Will Saunders says its a fun and Australian way to get the anti-Iraq war message across.
"It may be the strength of feeling about George Bush, that protest doesn't need to be all doom and gloom and shooting slogans," he said.
"Just because you feel strongly about an issue doesn't mean you can't have a laugh about it as well."
Mr Saunders says it was hoped a world record for mooning would be broken, but fewer than expected numbers actually turned up.
One of the people to bare her bottom, Jo, said it was worth it for her despite the cold weather.
"We all have a bit of joke don't we, but although we can have a bit of a joke by dropping our pants today we are deadly serious about how this deadly war has to end in Iraq," she said.
Meanwhile, around 200 people protested on Elizabeth street near St James station to demonstrate against any passing motorcades belonging to APEC.
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One Salient Oversight-
I'm looking for any evidence for just a historical Jesus. I don't care about the miracles, because they are nothing special. But your "evidence" really doesn't prove Jesus existed. Here is why.
Flavius Josephus- Only account (of the four popular ones used to defend a historical Jesus) that even states anything about Jesus. First, the passages have been deemed as forgeries. Second, even if they were correct, Josephus wasn't born until well after Jesus supposedly died. And his work wasn't written until 93 CE. Meaning, it would be nothing more then hearsay. Which doesn't stand up. He would be at least 4th hand source. And he doesn't show where he got the information from anyway (which would be obviously a 2nd 3rd hand account, at best). Not reliable by any stretch of the imagination.
Pliny the Younger, Tacitus, Suetonius- The other three writers always quoted. First, they weren't born until 3 decades after Jesus died. There writings came even later. They never cite first hand accounts, so at best, they were just repeating hearsay, which doesn't work. Plus, they never mention Jesus anyway. And all that they prove is that people believed in Jesus by the time they wrote. Which is logical, as the Gospels were already starting to circulate. And there was a very large time gap between the supposed death of Jesus, and these people's writings, which would have allowed a lot of time for a story to spread. I know you only mention one of these people, but I decided I'd mention the rest just to get to it first.
There is not one contemporary writer who recorded a single word about Jesus. Everything we have is hearsay, which is not evidence. Hercules, a figure we know is just a myth, has as much evidence for his existence, as Jesus does. So really, it's unreasonable to believe he existed.
But feel free to come back to my blog and debate some more. I will be releasing a blog very soon, explaining why the most common evidence for Jesus isn't evidence at all. The Jesus Challenge
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