2007-08-14

Reasons why American Christianity is failing

8 comments:

Sam Charles Norton said...

Charming.
BTW Neil - please could you change your feed settings so that I get a flavour of what the post is about without coming to your site itself!! I think Blogger has reset things in this regard - I've only just discovered they've done it to me.

Of course, you might not want to....

Deanna said...

There are over 250 million people in America, I hardly think one person can speak for "the majority of americans" as the writer in the editorial piece has claimed to do. Nor should the majority of americans be judged by the ramblings of one misguided person.

Justin said...

Only in America?

:)

Neil Cameron (One Salient Oversight) said...

Justin,

I don't know of anywhere else in the world this sort of thing would be said.

Justin said...

Isn't this the kind of thing that was at the root of the One Nation debacle?

I've certainly heard rants like this when I used to drive a taxi.

And what about Islamic countries towards Jews? OR even Nazi Germany and the Holocaust? Have I missed something here?

I think that this letter sucks. But isn't it just evil under some religious banner? And isn't that everywhere?

Justin said...

Now that I think about it, I went to church once who thought this (in Australia)...

The person had to be rebuked.

Neil Cameron (One Salient Oversight) said...

Isn't this the kind of thing that was at the root of the One Nation debacle?

Broadly speaking there will always be, in every society, some form of "meta-blame" placed upon a minority. Yes, the Germans blamed the Jews and the ONP blamed illegal immigrants.

What I'm pointing out here is that "anti-atheism" is a specific example of "meta-blame" that only exists within American Christianity.

Some examples from "Fundies say the Darndest things":

Atheists use atheism as an excuse to justify debauchery. Deep down, all those so called atheists believe in God and fear divine retribution for denying the Lord's existence. So they try to be a little bit nicer than the Christians as an insurance policy. Link

I don't even want to know how much you hate yourself and your life because you're an atheist. Life must be so pointless to you. I bet you amke your family miserible. That's another thing. I read your rant diary thing and I'll tell you what: that premature baby you got? I want you to know you did it. You almost killed your own baby because you reject the One True God! The sins of the father will fall unto his flower I tell you that much! How does that make you feel to know that because you hate God that you caused this tragedy in your family? If you still have a little spark of Jesus you should feel bad right now. If not it might be too late for you becaue the Devil has eaten your heart to peaces. Link

Every Hitler, suicide bomber, evil pope, despot king who call for 'holy war' do so for one reason: Politics. i.e they want more land - or to rule over people, or to change a policy. Religion is secondary to all their motives. And you atheists are the ones to talk about evil - you will find that nearly all crime perpetrated today is from either from confirmed/unconfirmed atheists or agnostics. Link

Muslims countries aren’t as interested in ID because they don’t need to deal with nearly as much atheist scum evolutionists with their evolving mind tricks. All our liberties are allowing the atheists here to destroy our society. George H.W. Bush was intelligent and thoughtful enough to say that atheists shouldn’t really be citizens. Maybe his son will have the intelligence to make a similar point, maybe in his next state of the union adress outlaw evolution. He wouldn’t need to say much, simply something like “every evolutionist is now an enemy of the Republic,” and then explain why. The muslim countries know how to deal with these people(one of the rare things they do right). Why can’t we follow their lead? Link

Seriously, does anybody ever cry at an Atheist's funeral?

I mean, since Atheists have no value whatsoever as human
beings (they're not even human, but only inhuman animals),
since Atheists are nothing but miserable Liars, Cowards
and Murderers, after all, why would anybody in their
right mind weep over the dead rotting corpse, or bone
chips and ashes (that get mixed together with those of
others from the crematory) of a worthless dead Atheist?

And what epitaph do you engrave on an Atheist's grave
marker? "Here lies the only good Atheist, which is a
dead Atheist". What else is there say? Nothing at all.
No last words, no last rites, no flowers, no anything.

Every time an Atheist dies, the world is better off as
a result of that dead Atheist being dead, & its damned
God-forsaken soul burning in the fiery pits of Hades. :)

Which begs another related question, do Atheists cry at
funerals? If so, why? Since Atheists hate God, and they
hate Family, and they hate Country, who are they crying
for? It is true: The only good Atheist is a dead Atheist."
Link

Atheism is a really EVIL invention since it tells people that there is no judgement in afterlife.

Therefore an atheist can MOLEST and kill as many innocent children as POSSIBLE since the atheist has NOTHIGN to fear. This ALSO explains the rising NUMBER of child-molesters thieves and serial killers. While a religious PERSON knows that EVIL behaviour will be punished by GOD and CHILD MOLESTERS will go to HELL atheists don't have that fear and so there BECOMING the most dangerous child-molesters, THIEVES and MURDERERS of them all!!!

Most of the INMATES in prisons are atheists SOME may find back their way to GOD and GOD may forgive them.
The OTHERS are damned and SATAN WILL FEAST ON THERE SOULS!!!!


ATHEISM IS DANGEROUS!!
Link

No, everyone is born Christian. Only later in life do people choose to stray from Jesus and worship satan instead. Atheists have the greatest "cover" of all, they insist they believe in no god yet most polls done and the latest research indicates that they are actually a different sect of Muslims. Link

"[In response to a post made about the "atheistic lifestyle" being very nearly the same as the "Christian lifestyle" in that atheists get up, eat, dress, work at jobs, etc., as do Christians]

Your implication that there is little difference between the Atheistic Lifestyle and the Christian Lifestyle was not really complete.

There are several activities associated with the Atheistic Lifestyle that you left out:

1) How about the time to find a sexual partner that results in AIDS.

2) How about the time to go to the doctor for diseases associated with AIDS and the time to take the AIDS cocktails.

3) How about the time to go get a drug fix.

4) How about the time to steal money for the next drug fix.

5) How about the time to find a sexual partner that results in an illegitimate child.

6) How about the time to go to the welfare office for checks for the illegitimate child.

7) How about the time on the Murray Povich show to figure out "who the daddy is" for the illegitimate child.

8) How about the time spent trying to get child support from a father that was interested in nothing but the sex.

9) How about the time to find an abortion clinic.

10) How about the time to go to a Psychiatrist to get over the guilt associated with the abortion.

11) How about the time at the AU, ACLU and NOW meetings.

There really is a major difference between Atheistic Lifestyle and the Christian Lifestyle."
Link

Justin said...

Yes -- its crazy. I'll grant that.

What does Islamic nations do with Atheism? Does atheism even exist in Islamic nations? (Not with expats)

The Truth is, the Phrase "Only in America" is the difficult thing.

There are Australian Christians that rail against atheists (I know at least one). But the phrase "Only in America" in effect means: "Only in American is this perceived to be a norm, or OK, or defend-able."

I married an American, and produced two American kids (well, dual), and all my US family find this stuff offensive too.