tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14237465.post8380254352677527162..comments2024-03-22T19:12:22.089+11:00Comments on One Salient Oversight: Exodus 21.22Neil Cameron (One Salient Oversight)http://www.blogger.com/profile/03143948543305522865noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14237465.post-41837786912399145362012-03-12T09:15:17.616+11:002012-03-12T09:15:17.616+11:00Steven the pro-choice Christian, as a vegetarian, ...Steven the pro-choice Christian, as a vegetarian, I just love a good ribeye every night.Dr. Jim Kinnebrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10179046042857295894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14237465.post-10938742948221477152012-03-12T09:15:09.505+11:002012-03-12T09:15:09.505+11:00Steven the pro-choice Christian, as a vegetarian, ...Steven the pro-choice Christian, as a vegetarian, I just love a good ribeye every night.Dr. Jim Kinnebrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10179046042857295894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14237465.post-15648690843467784872011-12-15T06:09:36.120+11:002011-12-15T06:09:36.120+11:00Lisa, Mother of Nine, as a pro-choice Christian pa...Lisa, Mother of Nine, as a pro-choice Christian pacifist I, too, am offended by the "South Park" style straw men who, it appears to me, are supposed to represent Jesus (note the crown of thorns) and Muhammed (his pictorial representation is in itself notoriously offensive to many Muslims) reading each other's scriptures. Their being in bed may or may not be meant to have prurient overtones ("strange bedfellows" may be the only point).<br /> What does compel honest and careful self-examination is the fact that regarding abortion, the fact that males have historically just assumed the right to make such personal and far-reaching decisions for females speaks to our attitude of entitlement, which we fiecely resist extending reciprocally to females. "How fiercely," you might ask? Let's just point out that while there are famines and natural disasters, for most women, most of the time, the greatest danger in (and to)their lives is usually from the men in their lives.Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00381217285004769899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14237465.post-20426642354415226382011-12-15T06:04:24.028+11:002011-12-15T06:04:24.028+11:00Lisa, Mother of Nine, as a pro-choice Christian pa...Lisa, Mother of Nine, as a pro-choice Christian pacifist I, too, am offended by the "South Park" style straw men who, it appears to me, are supposed to represent Jesus (note the crown of thorns) and Muhammed (his pictorial representation is in itself notoriously offensive to many Muslims) reading each other's scriptures. Their being in bed may or may not be meant to have prurient overtones ("strange bedfellows" may be the only point).<br /> What does compel honest and careful self-examination is the fact that regarding abortion, the fact that males have historically just assumed the right to make such personal and far-reaching decisions for females speaks to our attitude of entitlement, which we fiecely resist extending reciprocally to females. "How fiercely," you might ask? Let's just point out that while there are famines and natural disasters, for most women, most of the time, the greatest danger in (and to)their lives is usually from the men in their lives.Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00381217285004769899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14237465.post-18960574758637830842011-12-15T06:04:08.923+11:002011-12-15T06:04:08.923+11:00Lisa, Mother of Nine, as a pro-choice Christian pa...Lisa, Mother of Nine, as a pro-choice Christian pacifist I, too, am offended by the "South Park" style straw men who, it appears to me, are supposed to represent Jesus (note the crown of thorns) and Muhammed (his pictorial representation is in itself notoriously offensive to many Muslims) reading each other's scriptures. Their being in bed may or may not be meant to have prurient overtones ("strange bedfellows" may be the only point).<br /> What does compel honest and careful self-examination is the fact that regarding abortion, the fact that males have historically just assumed the right to make such personal and far-reaching decisions for females speaks to our attitude of entitlement, which we fiecely resist extending reciprocally to females. "How fiercely," you might ask? Let's just point out that while there are famines and natural disasters, for most women, most of the time, the greatest danger in (and to)their lives is usually from the men in their lives.Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00381217285004769899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14237465.post-41377461373982589142008-11-30T03:02:00.000+11:002008-11-30T03:02:00.000+11:00Rabbi Balfour Brickner, senior rabbi emeritus at t...Rabbi Balfour Brickner, senior rabbi emeritus at the Stephen Wise Free Synagogue, New York, NY, claims the Hebrew Bible deals explicitly with abortion in Exodus: 21.22. He claims the meaning of this text is straightforward. Only monetary compensation is exacted from whoever causes a woman to miscarry. Since the unborn fetus is not considered a person, the one responsible cannot be held liable for the taking of human life and certainly not for murder.<BR/>You are correct that the verse actually says, "When men strive together and hit a pregnant woman, so that her children come out, (or are born prematurely) but there is no harm, the one who hit her shall surely be fined, as the woman’s husband shall impose on him, and he shall pay as the judges determine." Verse 23 - "But if there is harm, then you shall pay life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.<BR/>Twisting the actual words of Scripture to suit ones own agenda is further aggravated by the picking and choosing of which verses to quote. Isn't it interesting that those that choose to use this verse as an argument against abortion choose to ignore the verses surrounding it, such as Ex. 21:20-21, "When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money." and verse 17, "Whoever curses his father or his mother shall be put to death.<BR/>And - what is this cartoon with two apparently Muslim men in bed together, seemingly naked and one of them reading a Bible? Isn't that an extremely offensive depiction to the Muslim community? What were the "non-Christian / progressive thinking" creators of this cartoon thinking?<BR/><BR/>http://servingthekingstea.blogspot.comAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13093382725796223080noreply@blogger.com